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Your Firearms Screw-Ups
We've had plenty of time now to have made a lot of mistakes handling/using/storing firearms.
Care to share yours (or those you've seen or heard about)? If it could save one person from an injury, wouldn't it be worth it? I guess I'll start. I've been around firearms of one type or another since I was knee-high to a turtle.Safety and a keen respect for firearms was always a given. I've driven this practice home with all my kids, also. Last week, however, I screwed-up! One of my sons is a sound engineer (sound tracks for movies/commercials, etc). He called and wanted to borrow some of my pieces to take to the studio to make some recordings of the actions and such for their library and also for a track they're doing. I told him "sure, you're welcome to take anything you want". I had pretty much "staged" everything that I thought he would want for recording and had it waiting for him. After loading everything into his car, he asked if I had any bolt-action pieces. The only bolt- action piece I have is a .22, so I went back into the house to get it from the bedroom closet.I hadn't even handled it in years.It's a magazine-fed piece. It had the magazine in it. I unzipped the case, worked the action and , holding the muzzle toward the ceiling, snapped the trigger. Yep, you guessed it! The last time I used it, I guess I left one round in the magazine. When I checked the chamber, of course, it didn't have a round in it...but, the magazine DID!!! When I closed the bolt, it chambered the round and when I pulled the trigger I fired a 22 LR/HP through the ceiling. My wife doesn't even know it yet. Small little hole that took me quite a while to find. Next day I went into the attic to check things out. Seems it must have hit a rafter cause there was no hole in the roof. I'm still having nightmares about this. You know...the "what-if" stuff. I visited my gunsmith (and good friend) a few days ago to confess my sins. He told me stories that you wouldn't believe about mistakes that he had made in addition to those of others. I'm now carrying a .22 round in my pocket to REMIND ME of how easy it is to make just one small mistake. I PRAY that I have learned my lesson. Anyways, that's my story (confession) Yes, I Know "The piece is ALWAYS LOADED"...AND SO IS THE MAGAZINE!!! PLEASE BE CAREFUL, FOLKS ! |
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So far, I haven't done anything worse than shooting in the rain and waking up the next day to an orange gun.
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Recently: Overtightened scope mount screws on new Stainless Ruger 10/22. Stripped both, still have not sent in to be repaired. Did I mention I hate soft aluminum? I should have known better YES, and did I feel really stupid? YES. This was BEFORE I had even shot the rifle.
When I was 16 (ok, so it was over 20 years ago) or so I was rabbit hunting with a neighbor. Came back to a barn to unload and dress the rabbits. Thought I had unloaded my 410 pump shotgun and for some reason decided to pull the trigger with the gun pointing in general down direction (thankfully). Good think that 410 didn't spread much, because the impact area was about 4 inches from my neighbors foot. He had moved in closer and I wasn't paying attention...To his whereabouts or my ammo. Lesson learned. It was traumatic enough for me not to forget it, and to seriously change what I do before I pull the trigger of an 'unloaded' gun. |
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OP broke rule #1: Treat every gun as if loaded. OP more or less followed rule #2: Don't point the gun at anything you don't want to die or destroy. I'm sure you did not want to destroy your ceiling but worse could have been hit. You were also lucky it was .22lr so you didn't bust an eardrum. Anyway, moral of the story is that if you keep the gun pointed in a "safe" direction then when the worst of the worst happens it is still manageable.
My one and only negligent discharge involved a brand new pump 12ga I had never operated. I began loading the tube and thought it would hold 6 rounds and not 5. Well, the 6th shell went 3/4 way in and then popped out stuck halfway in the tube and against the feed ramp. I turned the gun over to work the shell out and my hands, unfamiliar with the gun, desperately tried to find purchase as the gun slid through them towards the ground. Of course, a finger found purchase on the trigger which dropped the pin on the live shell in the chamber. It blew a crater in the ground about 8" in front of my foot and dirt rained down seconds later. It left me pretty shaky for awhile. I had been observing rule #2 so it was manageable. I had failed to observe rule #1 or I would have cleared the chamber or at least engaged the safety. A lesson learned was not to immediately load and fire a weapon you have never handled; always familiarize yourself with the gun first. |
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With several types of shotguns around, SLV>GLD, very good points.
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At the indoor pistol range a couple of years ago, I had my first and I hope only, AD. I was shooting my P-38 and I had what I thought was a failure to eject. While turning the gun over to look at the chamber, somehow I pulled the trigger and the round went crossways into the next lane. Fortunately, I was alone in the range and no one saw my stupidity and negligence. It really rattled me!
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Ag-man,
Probably a good thing it wasn't your CZ, huh? I "think" I remember your having one. Even 25' to the starboard is somewhat hazardous,huh? LOL |
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One of the guys I work with had an AD with a 12 ga shotgun. It hit him in the calf and he lost a large amount of muscle, a hideous looking wound still, after 25 years. Very sobering as an object lesson on the power of firearms. |
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----------------- I had 3 accidental discharges back in my drinking days, I started collecting guns in the early Clinton years and liked to fondle my guns sometimes after many beers. One .38 spl through the floor, not noticable. One .25 mousegun round through a corner of a cheap metal filing cabinet. No big deal. One .38 spl discharged in a small room of a concrete block cottage while practicing fast draw with a revolver I thought was not loaded. The latter was the most scary. The bullet bounced all over that room with perfect geometry like a ball on a pool table and just missed me. I'm sure glad I quit drinking! |
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Was shooting a competition grade Sig Sauer, had a very light trigger. Fired a round, and re-applied too much trigger pressure on the recoil and got an unexpected double-tap that went high. To me, that was an ND as I did not intend it to fire.
Thankfully that was my worst faux pas. I treat all firearms of all calibres, with great respect, as they are all potentially deadly, and I always assume they want to go bang. Every firearm is different and has different characteristics and I'm extra careful if I transition to another gun. |
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As an aside, over Thanksgiving,we were using a 24" (at least)tree as a backstop for our targets, We never thought for a moment that we were going to fell the tree the next day. Fired a lot of the 7.62X25 into a target backed by that tree. Needless to say, we ruined a chainsaw blade when felling that tree. Some had penetrated at least 1/3 through using milsurp ammo into an Oak Tree. My smith said that some rounds used a finer powder which accelerated the round to higher than normal velocities because of the powder penetration into the primer...or some such...sounded right to me at the time. I DO know that some rounds really fired with a much louder burst than others. Think I'll stick w/ S&B from now on for consistency. GOTTA REMEMBER THAT FIRING LESS THAN 8 LEAVES THAT HAMMER BACK I really do like that weapon, though |
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Just Remembered...
An ex-Spec Forces friend (Nam Era) came home and went bird hunting. Was crossing barbed wire fence, Leaned shotgun against post.Pulled down on barbed wire...gun slid sideways and fired. Left my friend with bad wounds up side and face...all this after having surviving some nasty stuff in Nam. Don't do that! K? |
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Triple CHECK every firearm in MY rule NUMBER ONE!
Three extra seconds saves a LIFETIME of REGRET........ and sometimes a LIFE - yours! :signs14::signs14::Surrender: |
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Rampon, it doesn't even have to be mag fed. When a preteen, my best freind nearly put a 22LR up the bottom of my chin since he only visually checked, didn't "feel", the chamber of a single shot rifle. He was seated and I standing next to him admiring his dad's guns when "POW"; past my face into the celing. If it wasn't for his dad's bellow of "What $#)%(U)%#@ was that!" we'd have been frozen there for minutes in disbelief. I think he'd of rather been shot than take the whippin his dad gave him for that.
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I've been beating MYSELF up ever since...It's not that I didn't know better, I do. In the M.C. we were taught to physically check the chamber. I've chambered my finger more than once with an M1A This was a bolt action...I'll forever be more than careful with them in the future! I deserve a good beating over this! Just No Excuse, Sir! |
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Hoarder, I know the feeling. Had a jammed M60 cook off with the cover open and the base of one of the rounds bounced around in our tank turrent for a bit. GD's were working overtime because nobody took a hit. When found, I wore it on my dogtag chain as a lucky charm, still have it. Yup, protocols were followed but it was either a cook off or a hang fire. Not quite like being in a combat loaded tank and seeing a thunderstorm head your way; now that'll raise the hairs on the back or your neck.
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I figure I was "hard learned", when a kid we'd use our BB guns to set of belts of 30cal blanks one at a time, we were carefull of the paper plugs since we knew they come out fast enough to damage somebody. But, it was the first one, I popped it off while holding it, that still leaves me with a throbbing reminder. Numerous hand det'd firecrackers and living through a war has definitely given me a healthy fear/respect of explosive objects. So what do I do? Get a B.S. in Chemistry, of course! So, no more AD/ND's for me, I've used up my GA's and have a family.
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Not a firearm story, but definitely a screwup to not pay strict attention to my friend's teenage son while he's flipping a knife around in the next room. I was standing there talking when the knife came launching at my face and hit me in the eye - hilt first, thank God; it was a nasty-looking 10" dagger.
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Im new to this and have only had two incidence. On my first day of shooting instruction I had a really long hang fire. I thought I had finished unloading the chamber and got ready to lower my gun and the Instructor pushed the muzzle back up and it went off. I have a serious respect for that 30 second rule now and count my bullets. I also pointed a loaded gun at him that first day. I wont do that again either..
We did a tactical course at the shooting range last week. I was so intent of getting the bad guy I shot right through the prop mailbox.. I also got too close to the .45 to site and the recoil caused the gun to hit and cut my nose... Evidently both were a no-no because I am still hearing about it. In any case I got the bad guy dead center through the mailbox so it wasn't a total failure. |
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Remington 870s scare me. I have always had one around and if its a go I'd grab it.
The Safety is out of sight on the trigger guard and I've walked around in the woods for hours with the safety off. I could have shot myself with a tree limb in the trigger or a dropping it which I've done--without boom I always check and check and still do not trust its not dangerous. E-A |
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I have 3 heard from friends.
In Alberta 3 guys were driving a brand new high end pick up looking for geese in the fields. At dusk or shortly thereafter, they spotted a flock but could not sneak up in time. They decided just to hammer across the field in the truck with 2 in the bed. Before they got close enough, the truck hit a hollow not visible in the low light and one of the shooters was thrown over the cab and fired both barrels of a 10 gauge into the the engine compartment. In Ontario, 2 guys were driving from one spot to another when the passenger's shotgun went off blowing a hole in the roof of the car and causing the Labrador riding in the back to leave a pile on the back seat. A guy was literaly crawling up on some geese at the edge of the water dragging his hammered shotgun behind him. The hammer caught on something, the gun fired and killed him. |
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Army story - A guy in my platoon was sitting in an APC wiith his chin on the muzzle of a blank adapted M-16. He decided to check the safety by pulling the trigger and blew a hole through the fleshy part of his chin also burning his tongue and mouth.
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I grew up around guns and hunting so much that I became bored with rifle hunting and took up bowhunting to make it more sporting for the game.
This is really embarrassing and it scared the ^*&$ out of my wife and myself. My wife and I were living in a two story apartment on the ground floor. We had sold our second house for another very decent profit and were having our present house built in 1995. Her father was dying and had given her several guns...... Three large game rifles, couple .22 rifles, a ruger super blackhawk .44 mag and a Belgian browning 12 ga. auto. These guns had sat in his gun safe for years. I was sitting on the bed about 10:00 pm checking out the shot gun with the barrel pointing straight up and the butt on the bed. I was looking at the model # and yep clicked the trigger..... BOOOOOM I still can't believe I was that stupid. There was a girl that lived up stairs in the apartment above. I did not hear a body hit the floor after the shot. No one answered the door and of course the door was locked. What to do now ? No blood seeping through the hole. We could only assume that the apartment layout above was the same as ours so the bed would be in the same place. I stuck an arrow through the hole and did not hit a bed or any thing. We waited and waited and waited for the girl to come home all night long. Long long night. No sound at all from above and no blood coming out of the hole. In the morning I went to the managers office and explained what happened. He got a key and we opened the door and went in. No one was home. Carpet fibers all over the floor and a nice pattern on her ceiling. This could have been very bad. But it worked out better than I would have guessed. The manager charged me ~$100.00 to patch things up and never even hinted about involving the police. |
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When I was was 12 I was shooting a shotgun with my dad. I miscounted how many I shot off. When he was setting up the targets, my finger hit the trigger and BOOM! The shot went about 20 yards away from him. He thought I was shooting at something else and didn't realize how close I came to accidently shooting him. I've never made that mistake again.
About a year ago, I was disassembling a new gun and was having trouble where I had to unjam something. As I was using my muscle rather than brains, I realized I had the barrel pointed at another shooter. The gun was unloaded, on safe etc, etc. It didn't fire, but the two of us made eye contact and i felt like a complete ass at being caught breaking the 1st rule of firearm safety. Those are my 2 in 38 years. |
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Errrr, was just thinking about those hangfires. Bought 160 rounds of surplus Paki 303 and haven't been able to get one to fire yet of the dozen or so I've tried.
Had a winchester 94 go off pointed at the ground as I was cranking the shells through it with frozen gloved hands at the end of a hunt. Shot at the noise of my own dog moveing through the brush with a single shot 22, when I had a greathorned or hawk owl scream almost in my ear behind me as a kid. I missed him Have kept on hunting with the safety off a couple of times; that is scary! Had a friend's son put a 30-06 round through his foot after he had done that very thing after seeing a deer. Had to be carried 3/4 of a mile out of a very nasty U.P. swamp, but he was lucky it didn't ruin the bones. |
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Good share everyone. Lessons here for all.
***backing slowly out of the room (with kevlar vest on)**** |
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